Location / Name:
Grand Rapids MI, Kent County (County seat and 2nd largest city in MI)
What's Here:
Amtrak
Former Amtrak Depot
Former Kalamazoo, Allegan & Grand Rapids RR Depot
CSX
Grand Rapids & Eastern RR
Cool Chessie System bridge over Patterson Ave
CSX's Wyoming Yard
NS/Grand Elk Grand Rapids Yard
Lydi Line RR, a quarter scale railroad over at Vierson Boiler
Russ Eldrid's 1/8 scale White Creek Railroad, ~20 miles north
Data:
GPS Coordinates: as needed
Phone A/C: 616
ZIP: 49503+
Geography:
Flat to Hilly
Access by train/transit:
Daily Amtrak to Chicago commuter
The Scoop:
Grand Rapids is an interesting town to railfan, and I
always enjoyed my business trips here. CSX has a large presence in
Grand Rapids. Norfolk Southern formally did, but now leases their line
from here down to Elkhart Indiana to the Grand Elk
RR, giving us a new shortline to photograph. The other
shortline in town is the Grand Rapids and Eastern.
To round out the action in town, you have an Amtrak commuter train that
heads into Chicago every morning and returns in the evening.
The Amtrak commuter train which leaves for Chicago in
the AM can be shot at many locations in and around the station, as well as
along Chicago Dr SW, and further south. If they are keeping the train
overnight at the GR&E, then you can also get Amtrak pictures in parts of
Grand Rapids that probably haven't seen passenger trains since the 50's
(that's my guess).
As always, I don't normally venture into the yards
unless I have an escort or someone else that knows the territory and is
friendly with the RR folks.
Apparently, the end of Freeman Ave is popular
with local railfans, and gives you a fairly good vantage point for shooting
stuff at Wyoming. I saw some of my first "2 digit" CSX engines along that
that road, way back in 98.
One of the most interesting sites (IMHO) is
the Chessie System overpass on Paterson Ave SW, although catching a train
going over it can be a time consuming process. Morning sun is best
from the south side of the bridge, altho there aren't really any places
"right there".... you'll have to walk a ways. Trains coming into Grand
Rapids often stop here for signal just off to the left of the picture,
making it a little easier to snap one off. I don't know if they still
visit, but I often saw CPR engines on stuff coming into town this way.
Jim adds this: Where the GR&E meets the CSX (It is known as Fuller Junction),
running north from that junction is Marquette Rail (a G&W company) which runs
on the old C&O up to Ludington, and Manistee via Baldwin.
The Coopersville and Marne, in addition to being an excursion railway, runs
west from the CSX/GRE/MQT junction and has one freight customer that
gets a few cars a month.
The GRE runs most weekdays to the Amway complex in Ada, and King which is a
grain mill in Lowell.
And a note about Kalamazoo..... The BO tower is no longer staffed.
If you are driving between Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids, stop in Plainwell
at The Old Mill Brewpub and Grill. It is on the east side of town right
next (and I mean right next) to the Grand Elk KAL to GRR line. Back in
the day when there was still PRR (ex GR&I) and NYC (ex LS&MS) there
was a diamond there. When Penn Central took over they abandoned most
of the line from Parchment to Plainwell, and from Otsego to Allegan.
Because the paper mill in Otsego still got service, they turned the
diamond into a pair of switches. The Old Mill is open daily except
Sunday. Chances of catching a train are hit or miss. If there is
one, the northbound almost always works Otsego and leaves the cars
it picks up on the spur to Otsego. The switch to the Otsego spur
is right by the restaurant as well. The GDLK does use HOT/EOT
equipment, so if you're listening, you'll know if they're around.
Their road frequency is 160.335. It is usually the engineer and
conductor talking to each other. On occasion they use the radio
to call Watco dispatch on the PBX. The radio tower is just south
of M-89 across from The Old Mill.
As for places to stay and eat, 28th St off i96 exit 43
has just about anything you want, including your choice of at least 11
hotels. I'm sure there are other places too off other exits, but I
never had the time to search them out. The big chain stores are Target
and Walmart.
Here are the local radio freqs I found in a blog, so I
can't attest to their accuracy, altho the .230 and .320 freqs are used
system wide on CSX. The 160.800 freq was a channel used by the Pennsy
before the Penn Central days, as the Northern Central going by my house in
Towson MD used it.
Acknowledgements:
Jack Prange
Jim Cance
Denver Todd
Nate Danenberg
Jason Mancuso
PPWIII
Wikipedia
Google Maps
Bing Maps
Thanks to the many railfans for going out and taking the up close and personal pictures for the Grand Rapids railfan guide.
Their invaluable help makes this a better
and more complete guide for everyone!
About 15 miles northwest of Grand Rapids is an
excursion railroad known as the Coopersville &
Marne Railway. This year they are celebrating their 25th
anniversary. More info below.
Kalamazoo to the south still has an operating tower, an
Amtrak station and track that is exclusively Amtrak, and a couple of
diamonds. For those of you into busses, the main yard and depot is
right next to the Amtrak station.
Along the east-west corridor from Kalamazoo on I-94 is
Battle Creek, Albion, and Jackson. The track that parallels I-94 is an
Amtrak line, so don't go looking for anything but. Jackson hosted the
Amtrak 40th Birthday
train in
October of 2011.
Lansing, Michigan's state capitol, is about 60 miles
east of Grand Rapids, and has quite a few yards, an Amtrak station, with CSX,
NS, and CPR action.
North of Grand Rapids, bout 80 miles or so, you have
Cadillac..... now, by rail standards, a sleepy little town, but
nevertheless, a worthy stopping point if you're in the area.
If you are into things like Live Steam and/or Live Diesel, 7 1/2 inch gauge
style, the second largest railroad in the U.S.A. (and the largest private
one!) is ~15 miles north of Grand Rapids off US131 in Cedar Springs: The
White Creek
RR. Russ Eldrich has over six (actual) miles of rail on
the ground. To take it all in takes about a 45 minute train ride thru
some of the prettiest scenery and lakes!
To the south in Indiana, within fairly easy driving
range, you have Michigan City, Elkhart, and South Bend.
Getting to Grand Rapids is easy from almost anywhere.
From the Chicago and western Indiana areas, take I-94
east and when you get to the Benton Harbor MI, take I-196 up into Grand
Rapids. BTW, if anyone remembers Heathkit,
Benton Harbor used to be their home.
From the mid section of Indiana, US131 takes you right
into Grand Rapids, passing thru Kalamazoo, which is also a very good town
spot to stop in, with a working tower.
From western Indiana and Ft Wayne, take I-69 north to
Lansing, then head west on I-96. This will take you close to Battle
Creek, which I also recommend, and of course, Lansing.
From northern Ohio, it's I-75 north to Toledo, of which
I would swing around the west side of to catch US23 heading north to hit
I-96. Of course, by going this way, you have to stop in Toledo and Ann
arbor (not only to get pictures of the depot there, but to also grab some
grub too)
Coming in from the east as in Detroit, or a little
north of there, it's I-96 all the way into Grand Rapids. If you're
coming from Flint or further north, take I-69 to Lansing, then head west on
I-96.
From even further east, such as Pennsylvania or any
other east coast state from PA on up, come across the Ohio Turnpike, I-80/90
to Toledo, then take US23 north following the directions for northern Ohio.
From the northern section of Michigan, west side of
central, I would work your way over to US131 and come down it.
This is the former Amtrak station, which is just north of the CSX
wye. Amtrak, according to one source of info found on the web, now
ties their Chicago commuter train up overnight at the Grand Rapids and
Eastern facility because it is safer than leaving it here. Access is
easy from most anywhere because of the interchange off 131 at Wealthy St.
This is the HQ for the Grand Rapids and Eastern, along with the interchange
with CSX, and a diamond with them. In all of my visits to Grand
Rapids, pictures of them operating always eluded me... Anyone have any
pictures they want to share with the rest of the world?
A couple of screen shots from Google Maps, seems like they had better luck
in catching their engine than I ever did :-) Gone is the blue GRE engine....
And just think, I didn't live too far from where this empire started in New
York as a kid in Batavia NY!
Adjacent to the Chessie System overpass is this private
small scale railroad. Don't know much about it other than during the
years I visited Grand Rapids (1998-2002), the loop was in the process of being completed,
but on the few visits I made to the site, I never caught anyone around to ask questions of.
This is also why my maps contain the notice that the info hasn't been field
checked (by me) for 15+ years.
In checking with Open Railway Maps, they have the railroad noted as the
Lydi Line Railroad. Given that tidbit of information, I did a
Google search, and their AI engine came up with the results shown below.
That's something..... know more than I did 30 minutes ago! :-) :-)
It appears to be a quarter scale railroad, with 15" tracks. There
are/were several other quarter scale railroads in the state, notably the
Traverse Steam engine at the park/former zoo (but has since been moved to
another quarter sized railroad south of Traverse City). Since Vierson
is a boiler maker, it would kinda make sense for the owner to have an
interest in steam engines, and have one on the property.
The Steam Engine that was on display, is now gone, and the supporting tracks
removed. Anyone know what happened to it?
In a like note, in Hunt Valley MD, there is an office supply company, of
which the owner loved computers - so - he started a small museum in the
office of his business, which you could visit. This interest, or
obsession, has become so "big", that the office supply part of the building
is now located somewhere else, and the computer museum took over the whole
building. PLUS, on top of that, the Electronics Museum which
was started by Westinghouse 40+ years ago near BWI airport, closed, and the
contents and displays moved up to the computer museum. They even have
a 33ft long AWACS radar antenna waiting to be put on display (which was
probably the one hanging in the main (BWI) building)!
Bing's birds-eye view from 2009
in 2019
in 2025, steam engine gone :-(
the tracks are close enough for a pretty good comparison
CSX overpass just north of the airport on Patterson... they went to a lot of
trouble to "make" the Chessie System logo, so I guess they decided to keep
it around! That's good for us. Inbound freights will often stop
here waiting for a clear signal. The really good picture of the bridge
is by Nate Danenberg, I could never seem to catch it on a good clear day
like this. The other two are from Google Maps.
This is Amtrak's new station for Grand Rapids. It opened in October of 2014, and is
named the Vernon J. Ehlers Station. It is
located at the terminus of the Pere Marquette line that connects Chicago's Union
Station with Grand Rapids. It is located on Century Avenue under the US131/
Wealthy St overpass, immediately south of the Rapid's Central Bus Station.
Photos of the new station are by Denver Todd.
Getting here:
Take the Wealthy Ave exit from US131, make sure you stay to the left if you are heading north on 131.
Take a left onto Grandville Ave, then a left onto Logan St, and finally a left onto Century Ave SW.
If anyone lives in or around Grand Rapids, I could really use a few pictures of
the signals on my map, and any others you come across.... many thanks
Interlocking Signals
The tracks coming into Grand Rapids from the east are double-tracked.
This is where they go down to one for it's ride west to Kalamazoo Ave SE.
All of the aerial views are from Bing Maps.
Picture courtesy Nate Danenberg
EB/WB CSX Intermediate Color Light Signals
Picture courtesy Nate Danenberg.
Interlocking Signals
These signals are at the western end of the single
track stretch starting at Patterson Ave SE, and for the interlocking of
going from a single track to double track. The picture at the bottom
of this set comes from zooming in on Google Streetview - good thing they
have used higher resolution cameras! The two newest and clear pictures
are courtesy Nate Danenberg. Thanks!
Courtesy of the University of Texas Library, click
here for
their index page. This is a screen capture using Snagit of their 1912 Grand Rapids quadrangle.